Showing posts with label gun rights. Show all posts
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Sunday, August 3, 2014

The slow march toward gun rights in the courts

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The slow march toward gun rights in the courts

posted at 5:01 pm on August 3, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

There’s an excellent column at Real Clear Politics this weekend from Steve Chapman which I wanted to draw your attention to. It deals with the gradual evolution of gun laws in the United States – particularly in some of the least gun friendly, liberal bastions – and the role of the courts in this gradual migration.

Gun-control advocates are learning the downside of getting their way. Recently, a federal judge struck down the District of Columbia’s ban on the carrying of concealed handguns. Anti-gun forces have been losing in legislatures for a long time. Now they are finding that even where they win, they lose.

Washington used to have the strictest gun laws in America. Besides the prohibition of concealed guns, all firearms had to be registered and handgun ownership was forbidden.

The restrictions had no evident effect on crime: In the 1990s, the nation’s capital was known as the murder capital. But they invited a legal challenge — a historic one, as it happened. In 2008, the Supreme Court invalidated the city’s handgun ban as a violation of the Second Amendment.

The collective history in Chapman’s article is more than a collection of dates and case numbers, though they are available as reference. Several cases in Chicago and San Francisco are included, each taking the same long, slow arc that is being observed in DC. One of the chief points of confusion – and an unfortunate straw for anti-gun liberals to grasp at – is that the courts do agree on some restrictions. Violent felons and the demonstrably mentally unstable and violent – proven through adjudication – have been legally barred from gun ownership without constitutional hindrance. Somewhat more controversially, bans on carrying in specific public locations – schools and government buildings – have also withstood challenges. And where such exceptions are found, liberals have tried to use them as cracks in the armor to be wedged further open.

But in the end, the courts seem to be coming slowly into alignment, and the consensus is that private ownership for the purpose of self defense, both in the home and in the public square, is in keeping with the founders’ intentions. A few regional courts, packed by liberal executives, are still bringing back rulings which slow the tide, but at the highest levels they are falling by the wayside. It’s too early to declare victory and go home, but in keeping with Chapman’s thinking, this battle may finally be on the way to a just conclusion.


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Tuesday, July 29, 2014

DC walls off city to establish new freedoms for law-abiding citizens

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DC walls off city to establish new freedoms for law-abiding citizens

posted at 8:41 pm on July 29, 2014 by Matt Vespa

As previously mentioned, the District of Columbia’s law banning carrying firearms outside of the home was ruled unconstitutional. DC Police Chief Lanier instructed her officers not to arrest DC residents who are carrying outside the home if they’ve registered their firearms with the city. She also honored out-of-state residents with concealed carry permits. As for open carry, or anyone stopped on the street carrying a firearm, specifically if they’re from Vermont or Virginia, Lanier’s order instructed DC police to run their names to check for prior felonies. If the person in question comes up clean, send them on their way.

Well, all good things come to an end.

DC’s District Court ordered a 90-day stay in the Palmer decision to allow the city council to draft legislation allowing residents to carry their firearms in public; both parties agreed to this:

On July 28, 2014, Defendants filed a partially unopposed motion to stay pending appeal or, in the alternative, for 180 days and for immediate administrative stay.See Dkt. No. 52 at 1. In support of this motion, Defendants’ counsel advised the Court that he had conferred with Plaintiffs’ counsel, “who indicated that [P]laintiffs do not oppose a 90-day stay starting immediately ‘pending the city council enacting remedial legislation that complies with constitutional standards.’”

See id. at 1-2. Based on the parties’ agreement that an immediate 90-day stay is appropriate to provide the city council with an opportunity to enact appropriate legislation consistent with the Court’s ruling, the Court hereby ORDERS that Defendants’ motion for a stay is GRANTED to the extent that the Court’s July 24, 2014 Order is stayed nunc pro tunc for 90 days, i.e., until October 22, 2014.

As for die-hard gun rights supporters who would question why the plaintiffs would support a stay, that legal route was already underway.

At least on these terms, the reason is to give the city council time to clarify statues and establish permit-issuing protocols for law-abiding citizens; something that George Lyon, a plaintiff in the case, wants in DC.

Yesterday, Emily Miller of Fox5 in DC interviewed George Lyon who said, “The appropriate thing to do would be to enact a reasonable licensing permitting law that would achieve the legitimate governmental interest that the District has in seeing that only qualified and responsible people carry firearms.”

He was saying this in the hopes that the city wouldn’t spend millions of tax dollars on a prolonged legal fight.

Right now, if you planned on carrying in DC, you missed the boat.  If you live outside of the District, stay on the other side of the Potomac. Nevertheless, this is still a victory. Every state in the country and the District of Columbia have some form of law recognizing a citizens’ right to carry firearms in public for self-defense.

This decision ensures that the city council will draft some form of carry law.

Will there be almost suffocating regulations regarding concealed and open carry? You bet. This is DC. The city could try to push for a ban on open carry, given the politically sensitive nature of city, but establish a stringent concealed carry process. It shouldn’t be shocking if the process is “may issue,” meaning DC could deny you a permit for arbitrary reasons.

Additionally, we could see a bunch of benchmarks that could trigger another lawsuit. I’m referring to the “good cause” requirement that San Diego County adopted, which was struck down in the Ninth Circuit’s Petura v. San Diego decision earlier this winter.

Last May, the Supreme Court declined to hear Drake v. Jerejian; a similar case regarding New Jersey’s “justifiable need” clause in its handgun permit process. The issue remains to be settled.

Again, I’m not a lawyer; I’m just citing past legislation that other anti-gun legislatures have enacted in previous years. In a bastion if liberalism like DC, we should expect a heavily regulated permit process.

On the other hand, the principle of law-abiding citizens carrying firearms in public for self-defense has finally crossed the Potomac River.

Palmer v. DC – Order to Stay Decision by jpr9954


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Monday, July 28, 2014

DC rushes to prevent horde of law-abiding citizens from entering city

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DC rushes to prevent horde of law-abiding citizens from entering city

posted at 12:01 pm on July 28, 2014 by Matt Vespa

Over the weekend, a rather important decision regarding gun rights was handed down in the Palmer v. DC case: the District of Columbia’s ordinance that prevents law-abiding citizens from carrying their firearms outside of their homes is unconstitutional. It’s a decision that’s been pending for five years – and it applies to both open and concealed carry.

 In the decision written by Judge Frederick Scullin of the New York District Court for the Northern District of New York, he said:

In light of Heller, McDonald, and their progeny, there is no longer any basis on which this Court can conclude that the District of Columbia’s total ban on the public carrying of ready- to-use handguns outside the home is constitutional under any level of scrutiny. Therefore, the Court finds that the District of Columbia’s complete ban on the carrying of handguns in public is unconstitutional.

Accordingly, the Court grants Plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment and enjoins Defendants from enforcing the home limitations of D.C. Code § 7-2502.02(a)(4) and enforcing D.C. Code § 22-4504(a) unless and until such time as the District of Columbia adopts a licensing mechanism consistent with constitutional standards enabling people to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear arms.4 Furthermore, this injunction prohibits the District from completely banning the carrying of handguns in public for self-defense by otherwise qualified non-residents based solely on the fact that they are not residents of the District.

The 2008 Heller decision struck down DC’s handgun ban as unconstitutional, affirmed that the Second Amendment is an individual right; and that it applies to the residents living in our capital city. It also neutralized the anti-gun talking point regarding using the “well-regulated militia” to justify gun control policies:

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

The 2010 McDonald decision extended parts of Heller to the states, specifically the right to own a gun in the home.

This is a rather huge victory for Second Amendment supporters. Gun owners can essentially carry their firearms in DC, a place where exercising such a right was verboten for decades.

Although, it seems the city’s 10-round magazine restriction is still in effect. Nevertheless, the city is rushing for a stay in the Palmer decision to prevent hordes of gun-toting tourists from shooting up the city. But DC’s police chief, Cathy L. Lanier, instructed her officers to not arrest anyone carrying handguns on the street (via Washington Post):

D.C. police were told Sunday not to arrest people for carrying handguns on the street in the wake of a judge’s ruling that overturned the city’s principal gun-control law.

However, the D.C. attorney general’s office said it would seek a stay of the ruling while the city decides whether to appeal.

In an order approved by Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier, police were told that District residents are permitted to carry pistols if the weapons are registered. Those who had not registered their handguns could be charged on that ground, the instruction said.

Meanwhile, Ted Gest, the spokesman for the D.C. attorney general’s office, which defended the handgun ban in court, said it will “be seeking a stay shortly,” so the order by U.S. District Judge Frederick J. Scullin Jr. may not be in effect for long.

Its time of effectiveness could be very short,” Gest said.

Legal experts have said that in many cases all parties in a lawsuit are given the opportunity to appeal a ruling before it takes effect. However, it was decided at some point Sunday that Scullin’s ruling took immediate effect, and that set off efforts to bring the city into compliance.

Scullin, a senior U.S. District Court judge who normally sits in the Northern District of New York, wrote in his ruling that he was stopping enforcement of the law “unless and until” the city adopted a constitutionally valid licensing mechanism.

So, what about reciprocity of concealed carry permit holders? The ruling was applicable to them. DC’s Fox5 News’ investigative reporter Emily Miller, formerly of the Washington Times, reported yesterday that concealed carry permit holders from other states would be honored in DC.

Nevertheless, before law-abiding gun owners enter DC, there are a lot of questions that need answering.  What buildings and areas prohibit concealed carry in DC? Is concealed carry permitted in bars if one does not imbibe? Are hollow points legal? If a gust of wind blows a gun owner’s jacket open that reveals a firearm, is that cause for arrest for failing to conceal? It’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Last year, Texas passed SB 299 to address this issue of failure to conceal a firearm for permit holders in the state.

And what about Vermont residents? A sea of anti-gun legislatures surrounds the state, but it has great gun laws, most notably you don’t need a permit to conceal carry.

Luckily, Dave Kopel, a pro-Second Amendment attorney, addressed some of these issues, which included him saying that it probably isn’t wise to open-carry your AR-15 into DC since the ruling only applied to handguns. He also noted that he couldn’t find a copy of Chief Lanier’s notice to DC Police regarding the Palmer decision, which persons carrying in the city should have on them just in case.  I’m not a lawyer, but that seems to be just plain common sense until statues become more clearly defined.

Nevertheless, I wish law-abiding gun owners who choose to carry in DC safe travels.

UPDATE: Courtesy of Stephen Gutowski of the Capitol City Project, here’s the order Chief Lanier issued to DC Police following the Palmer decision. It addressed questions raised about Vermont gun owners and Virginia residents, where you don’t need a permit to open carry.

DC Chief of Police Order in response to concealed carry ruling


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Monday, July 21, 2014

Concealed carrier saves stabbing victim

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Concealed carrier saves stabbing victim

posted at 8:41 am on July 21, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

After there was just been so darned much bad news to cover over the weekend, it might be nice to brighten up Monday with a more inspiring tale. This story comes to us from Florida, where a concealed carry permit holder found himself on the scene of a sudden, brutal crime. Rather than turning a blind eye, he decided to get the situation under control. (From our friends at Bearing Arms.)

A Florida concealed carrier witnessed a man stabbing another near a bus stop in Orange County Florida and lept from his car to take the attacker down. Concealed carrier Jeffery Hopkins pulled his pistol and forced the attacker, Thomas Thorpe to the ground, where he held him until police arrived.

When deputies arrived at the scene, a knife was on the ground next to the bench and they found another knife in the suspect’s pocket.

“As I was getting out, I noticed the guy had a knife in his hand so I went for my gun and took him down,” Hopkins said. “He looked at me very scared. Then realized I was serious and dropped the knife and laid down immediately.”

Turns out that it was a good thing somebody got this lunatic under control. His behavior in the courtroom later indicated that he had more than a few issues to deal with.

Thomas Thorpe, 51, appeared before a judge and refused to have a lawyer represent him.

“Do you understand what an attorney is and what they do?” asked the judge.

“Yes, they screwed us,” Thorpe responded.

Thorpe seemed in a hurry as the short hearing progressed, telling the judge he wanted to enter a plea without the assistance of the African-American attorney standing next to him.

“I said not guilty — I pleaded not guilty and I don’t want this negro standing next to me,” Thorpe told the judge. “I don’t want a negro standing next to me.”

As with most of these cases which turn up, there isn’t much more to say except for, Well Done, Mr. Hopkins. There’s hope for the nation not going entirely The Purge on a 365 basis yet. The video of the perp in question follows, just in case you had any doubts about the need for somebody to draw down on this guy.


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Tuesday, July 8, 2014

Video: Colorado waitresses who carry more than just drinks

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Video: Colorado waitresses who carry more than just drinks

posted at 2:41 pm on July 8, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

In Colorado, they take their gun rights seriously — even if their elected representatives forget to do so. In a segment this morning, CBS News featured the waitresses of Shooters, a popular restaurant in Rifle, Colorado, who carry food, drinks, and firearms on the job. The owner began carrying her pistol openly and the staff followed her lead — and now the restaurant has embraced the concept, even offering training for concealed-carry permits that has a free burger and fries to go along with the class:

The town is called Rifle. The grill is called Shooters. So it’s no surprise that the waitresses have an unusual dress code, CBS News correspondent Barry Petersen reports.

“I am carrying a Ruger 357 Blackhawk,” said Ashlee Saenz, a waitress at Shooters. “I like the old style revolvers, and I just like big guns.”

When owner Lauren Boebert started carrying a gun openly, which is legal in most parts of Colorado, the waitresses accessorized as well. …

“Maybe if someone wandered in from New York City, from Washington D.C., they might be a little worried, said Doug Yajko, an area doctor. “But the local people, plus the people in western Colorado, are not going to be worried by someone with a handgun.”

Funny you should mention that, Doc. Rolling Stone has a featured interview with Michael Bloomberg out today, who helped push some of the gun-control legislation that Governor John Hickenlooper signed and then regretted. Bloomberg dismisses the efforts of the NRA’s recalls in Colorado, sniffing that they targeted communities with no roads, or something:

Has running Mayors Against Illegal Gunsfor the last eight years made you more or less optimistic about this issue?
Well, there are 16 states that already have [background checks], and they’re populated states. So there’s a big chunk of the country that’s already protected by these laws. And, yeah, you’re not going to get everybody until you get to a tipping point, but the fact that you save a lot of lives is not something to sneer at. And the fact that you can’t save every life is not an argument not to try to save any lives.

In Colorado, we got a law passed. The NRA went after two or three state Senators in a part of Colorado where I don’t think there’s roads. It’s as far rural as you can get. And, yes, they lost recall elections. I’m sorry for that. We tried to help ‘em. But the bottom line is, the law is on the books, and being enforced. You can get depressed about the progress, but on the other hand, you’re saving a lot of lives.

Colorado Springs has no roads? I wonder if Bloomberg knows that they have indoor plumbing, too. (I’ve been there and can confirm this personally, in case anyone wonders.) Nothing says we relate to you like a mayor of New York City assuming that the locals haven’t yet heard about asphalt yet. That’ll surely help Hickenlooper, who was recently forced to admit that he consulted with Bloomberg on gun control after denying it in a meeting with law enforcement. Sharks gotta swim, bats gotta fly, and elitists gotta impose nanny states, y’know.


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Saturday, June 28, 2014

Stand Your Ground explained for the non-lawyer

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Stand Your Ground explained for the non-lawyer

posted at 2:31 pm on June 28, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

I’ve heard more than my fair share of ignorant, biased arguments against Stand Your Ground laws in my time, particularly since the Zimmerman case. The has been a particularly useful tool for low information, anti-gun rights activists because it allows them to blend a combination of straw-men and stereotypes into one toxic mash-up. A typical example along these lines would be; Of course you like SYG laws. That way, when a white person is “threatened” by having too many black faces around they can just gun them down..

The people repeating these fables aren’t the problem here. The issue is the number of less engaged folks who may not know many details on one side or the other and who keep hearing this repeated until they actually begin to believe it. In an effort to stem the tide of intentional ignorance, Eugene Volokh (of The Volokh Conspiracy) removes all the Latin phrases and lawyerspeak and pens a primer for those in need of a clue.

In all states, shooting someone who is simply impeding you, shouting at you, and moving towards you loudly and aggressively (absent more), is a crime. The crime is called, assuming you shoot and kill the person, “murder.” (It could also be attempted murder if you miss, or aggravated assault if you hit and injure the person.) Yup, same crime as if the person wasn’t impeding you, shouting at you, or moving towards you loudly and aggressively (though in some states, it’s conceivable that if the person is shouting insults at you and that is viewed as “adequate provocation” — unlikely, but conceivable — you’d get lucky and get off with a voluntary manslaughter charge).

This is because “stand your ground” simply means that, if you reasonably believe that you face imminent death, serious bodily injury, rape, kidnapping, or (in most states) robbery, you can use deadly force against the assailant, even if you have a perfectly safe avenue of retreat. In non-stand-your-ground states, when you face such threats outside your home (and, in some states, your business), you can only use deadly force against the assailant if you lack a perfectly safe avenue of retreat. In no states are you allowed to shoot someone who is simply shouting at you or moving towards you loudly and aggressively, unless you reasonably believe that you’re in danger of death, serious bodily injury, or the other harms I listed. (When the person is coming into your home, in many states you can indeed shoot, but that doesn’t apply to confrontations on the public street.)

That’s the basic crux of the debate for those who don’t wish to dig too deeply into it, and it should serve as a good primer for the uninitiated. Of course, there’s more to the story when you get down to the nitty-gritty details of individual cases. For example, if you feel “fearful for your life” but the facts of the case are insufficient to convince a jury that the fear was justified, you may not be exonerated. Further, as Volokh notes, a prosecutor may then be able to convince a jury that you were insincere in your claims of being in fear of you life, leaving you facing a full slate of charges.

Also, the “duty to retreat” doesn’t exist in too many states today, but where it does it will lead to frequent confusion and questions after the fact. If you are unfortunate enough to be caught in such a situation in one of these states, you may be forced to prove that you didn’t have a clear path to retreat from the danger at the time you made the decision to discharge your weapon. Volokh points out that you’ll rarely need such a defense if the potential assailant has a gun, since outrunning bullets isn’t generally held to be a viable option. But if the perceived threat was in the form of an assault with a knife or club – or even fists – and you were a fair distance away with safe shelter at hand, SYG will likely not be invoked on your behalf.

I’m not saying this isn’t complicated in some ways – pretty much everything in the legal arena is. But it’s also nothing remotely similar to the picture frequently painted by anti-gun rights nuts. Be forearmed by being well informed.


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Saturday, June 21, 2014

Rand Paul takes another run at Choke Point

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Rand Paul takes another run at Choke Point

posted at 11:31 am on June 21, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Last month, Ed introduced us to Operation Choke Point, the program by which the Justice department is trying to shut down legal operations it just happens not to approve of on moral grounds. As Erika noted a bit later, one attempt at curbing this strong arm tactic already kicked off in the House.

Yesterday, a similar attempt got underway in the Senate, courtesy of Rand Paul. He was specifically attempting to prevent the Feds from using taxpayer funds to punish gun and ammo manufacturers.

Kentucky U.S. Sen. Rand Paul has filed an amendment aimed at protecting Second Amendment rights by preventing two federal agencies from pulling an “end-around” on gun and ammunition manufacturers and sellers.

Paul is seeking to amend the Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act for the 2015 budget to prevent any funds given to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) or Department of Justice (DOJ) from targeting gun and ammunition companies.

In Paul’s amendment, filed Thursday evening, the FDIC will not be allowed “to classify the sale or manufacture of a firearm or ammunition as an activity involving risk.”

The amendment, the text of which was obtained by The Daily Caller, also bars the DOJ from discouraging “the provision or continuation of credit or the processing of payments by any financial institution to a manufacturer, dealer, or importer of firearms or ammunition, based on the fact that the business is a manufacturer, dealer or importer of firearms or ammunition.”

As Paul seems to be well aware, once you give the Executive branch a tool to use – ostensibly for a noble purpose – they are more than likely to turn around and employ it in an unpleasant manner other than the original intention. In this case, however, the noble purpose was pretty questionable to begin with. I completely agree that there are some financial services operators out there who are preying on the economically disadvantaged with some dodgy programs such as payday loans and title loans. But if these activities are truly harmful, then the states where they are taking place need to have their legislatures get on the stick and make them illegal. Such assumptions by the White House remove any aspect of both personal responsibility on the part of the consumer and the independent oversight of the states.

But beyond that, as Rand highlights, the same type of rules can be twisted to a new purpose and cut off investment capital to completely legitimate and necessary businesses based simply on the fact that the administration has a personal problem with what they are doing. Under the Obama administration, gun and ammunition manufacturers would be a natural target. And it can all be done without the House or the Senate ever having a say in it.


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Sunday, June 15, 2014

Colorado Governor apologizes to sheriffs over gun control laws

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Colorado Governor apologizes to sheriffs over gun control laws

posted at 6:31 pm on June 15, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Something strange is afoot in the Centennial State and it has to do with Governor Hickenlooper. After signing on to a gun control bill which had plenty of people upset – to the point where some of his own law enforcement folks were suing him – he has suddenly apologized.

Governor John Hickenlooper is offering an apology to some of his fiercest rivals on the issue of gun control: Colorado’s sheriffs.

The governor’s mea culpa came Friday when he spoke before an assembled group of sheriffs from around Colorado.

A Hickenlooper spokesman confirms that the Governor apologized to the sheriffs for not meeting with them prior to the passage of gun control bills they opposed. Hickenlooper also said his administration didn’t do a good job anticipating pushback on gun control. According to his spokesman, Hickenlooper pledged better communication in the future.

This is curious. The GOP – with Tom Tancredo as their candidate – has been hot on the Democrat Governor’s heels for a while now, particularly since the signing of the gun control law. But as recently as last month, the conventional wisdom was that the crisis was past, Hickenlooper was out of the woods, and was sitting on a somewhat slim but still manageable seven point lead in the polls. He’s been faced with a number of other decisions which have drawn some of the attention away and mended a few fences, including some controversial drilling legislation and his veto of a water management bill which environmentalists had been pushing for.

But if things were looking cozy enough to save his seat at the Governor’s mansion, why offer an olive branch to the Sheriffs now? Moe Lane at Redstate (where I first saw the story) asks what may be the pertinent question.

I wonder what John Hickenlooper’s internal polling is telling him?

Good question. We haven’t been hearing as much chatter from the RGA about Colorado for a little while, but now I’m wondering if this seat is back in play?


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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

Bloomberg’s “grassroots” gun control group: There have been 74 school shootings since Newtown

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Bloomberg’s “grassroots” gun control group: There have been 74 school shootings since Newtown

posted at 3:01 pm on June 11, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

After the failure of his Mayors Against Illegal Guns group to sway public opinion in favor of more gun control, Michael Bloomberg announced earlier this year that he would be funneling at least $50 million to a new, “grassroots” organization now called Everytown For Gun Safety with the hope of “outmuscling” that scourge of civilized society, the National Rifle Association, and their ill-begotten political influence (because of, you know, their five million official members and millions more sympathizers). In what is only Everytown’s latest display of choosing deliberate exaggerations, lies, and scare tactics over honest conversation, the group recently updated their running list claiming that there have now been at least 74 school shootings just since the massacre at Newtown in December of 2012, which a HuffPo editor then helpfully mapped out:

Here’s the Washington Post‘s version, too. Any school shooting is an unacceptable tragedy for which we should be looking for practical, effective solutions, and an average of more than one school shooting every week is all the more eye-poppingly horrifying. It sounds like we have an outright epidemic on our hands — but, have there really been 74 “school shootings” in just eighteen months? Charles C. Johnsen, a.k.a. @ChuckCJohnson on the Twitters, took a closer look at the various crimes that Everytown has been lumping into its list, and unsurprisingly, quite a few are undeserving of the designation of a “school shooting.” Here’s a sampling of some of his research:

And on, and on, and on, until…

It certainly seems like suicides and gang violence should be delineated from “school shootings” (in which the “mass” is pretty much implied) as separate problems, no? Unless, of course, your real goal is to falsely portray an America in which wildly violent, deadly, and indiscriminate gun violence is increasing — rather than the actual trend in which it has for two decades been sharply decreasing.


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Sunday, June 8, 2014

Dear Nucla, Colorado: Mandatory gun ownership is still a bad idea

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Dear Nucla, Colorado: Mandatory gun ownership is still a bad idea

posted at 9:31 am on June 8, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

This was an ill conceived plan the first time I heard of it, and it’s gotten no better with time. Some overly enthusiastic supporters of the Second Amendment in the town of Nucla, Colorado have taken their support of a sacred freedom for Americans and shoved it a bit over the line. The town has passed a law requiring every head of household to own a firearm.

Guns have put Nucla in the national Second Amendment spotlight since the Nucla Town Board on May 8 passed the first — and only — municipal ordinance in Colorado requiring heads of households to have guns, and ammunition, “in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the town and its inhabitants.”

In truth, guns were ingrained in the culture of this out-of-the-way western Colorado town before the current gun-rights movement and before anyone had dreamed up what is being called the Family Protection Order. A visitor is hard-pressed to find anyone who didn’t already own guns — many guns — before the ordinance passed.

Only one member of the town board voted against the measure, but he’s not some sort of gun grabbing, Left wing firearms prohibitionist. In fact, if you read his response in the article, he makes a lot of sense. He just doesn’t want any more government regulations, including those at the town level.

But that’s not the only reason to oppose this sort of law. Charles Cooke outlines another important principle on this topic at The Corner.

The idea that there should be no difference between what one likes and what one thinks should be mandated is extraordinarily destructive to liberty — especially in today’s world, in which appeals to “public health” and “public safety” are routinely used to trump the freedom of the individual. Is this really the road that we want to start going down? A reminder: Obamacare’s individual mandate is a terrible idea because it forces people to buy a product that they might not want, not because it operates in service of a bad policy. The moment that we forget this on the Right, we will start a mandate war, in which we are not objecting to mandates on principle but objecting to them in practice. Then, whichever party is in power will use its authority to force people to conform. That way lies disaster.

The mandate argument is important, but it’s a bit more wonky than what lies beneath. When I hear this sort of discussion taking place, the more important – and basic – word which comes to mind is freedom. We have a number of freedoms which we hold near and dear, requiring permanent vigilance to ensure the government doesn’t mince them up too much under cover of protecting us from ourselves. But it’s equally important to remember that every freedom has two sides to it. You have the freedom of speech, but that also means that you are free to remain silent when you choose. You have the freedom to worship as you see fit, but it does not carry with it an implied requirement to attend church. And you have the freedom to keep and bear arms, but nowhere does it say that you must.

The closest I’ve seen to a valid argument in support of mandatory gun ownership as a constitutional principle is the example of state governments mandating automobile insurance to make sure everyone is protected and set up to some degree against liability. But that comparison fails on two points in my opinion. First, it was the same argument which was used to claim that the individual mandate in Obamacare was legal. I didn’t buy it then and I don’t buy it now. But more to the point, even the state laws which require auto insurance almost universally provide a back door out of the requirement. (You can generally post an interest bearing bond in the amount of the minimum liability coverage to be used to pay someone if you are found at fault.)

The town makes a great case in arguing for gun ownership with the goal of lowering crime rates and protecting the general welfare. But they should also remember the need for personal responsibility and the right of refusal. The residents will – hopefully – always be free to purchase a firearm should they wish, but it’s not the place of the government at any level to force them.

EDIT: (Jazz) The original title of this article spelled the name of Nucla incorrectly.


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Dear Nuncla, Colorado: Mandatory gun ownership is still a bad idea

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Dear Nuncla, Colorado: Mandatory gun ownership is still a bad idea

posted at 9:31 am on June 8, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

This was an ill conceived plan the first time I heard of it, and it’s gotten no better with time. Some overly enthusiastic supporters of the Second Amendment in the town of Nuncla, Colorado have taken their support of a sacred freedom for Americans and shoved it a bit over the line. The town has passed a law requiring every head of household to own a firearm.

Guns have put Nucla in the national Second Amendment spotlight since the Nucla Town Board on May 8 passed the first — and only — municipal ordinance in Colorado requiring heads of households to have guns, and ammunition, “in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the town and its inhabitants.”

In truth, guns were ingrained in the culture of this out-of-the-way western Colorado town before the current gun-rights movement and before anyone had dreamed up what is being called the Family Protection Order. A visitor is hard-pressed to find anyone who didn’t already own guns — many guns — before the ordinance passed.

Only one member of the town board voted against the measure, but he’s not some sort of gun grabbing, Left wing firearms prohibitionist. In fact, if you read his response in the article, he makes a lot of sense. He just doesn’t want any more government regulations, including those at the town level.

But that’s not the only reason to oppose this sort of law. Charles Cooke outlines another important principle on this topic at The Corner.

The idea that there should be no difference between what one likes and what one thinks should be mandated is extraordinarily destructive to liberty — especially in today’s world, in which appeals to “public health” and “public safety” are routinely used to trump the freedom of the individual. Is this really the road that we want to start going down? A reminder: Obamacare’s individual mandate is a terrible idea because it forces people to buy a product that they might not want, not because it operates in service of a bad policy. The moment that we forget this on the Right, we will start a mandate war, in which we are not objecting to mandates on principle but objecting to them in practice. Then, whichever party is in power will use its authority to force people to conform. That way lies disaster.

The mandate argument is important, but it’s a bit more wonky than what lies beneath. When I hear this sort of discussion taking place, the more important – and basic – word which comes to mind is freedom. We have a number of freedoms which we hold near and dear, requiring permanent vigilance to ensure the government doesn’t mince them up too much under cover of protecting us from ourselves. But it’s equally important to remember that every freedom has two sides to it. You have the freedom of speech, but that also means that you are free to remain silent when you choose. You have the freedom to worship as you see fit, but it does not carry with it an implied requirement to attend church. And you have the freedom to keep and bear arms, but nowhere does it say that you must.

The closest I’ve seen to a valid argument in support of mandatory gun ownership as a constitutional principle is the example of state governments mandating automobile insurance to make sure everyone is protected and set up to some degree against liability. But that comparison fails on two points in my opinion. First, it was the same argument which was used to claim that the individual mandate in Obamacare was legal. I didn’t buy it then and I don’t buy it now. But more to the point, even the state laws which require auto insurance almost universally provide a back door out of the requirement. (You can generally post an interest bearing bond in the amount of the minimum liability coverage to be used to pay someone if you are found at fault.)

The town makes a great case in arguing for gun ownership with the goal of lowering crime rates and protecting the general welfare. But they should also remember the need for personal responsibility and the right of refusal. The residents will – hopefully – always be free to purchase a firearm should they wish, but it’s not the place of the government at any level to force them.


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