Showing posts with label principles. Show all posts
Showing posts with label principles. Show all posts

Tuesday, February 25, 2014

Roll Call whip count: 19 Republicans support leadership’s immigration principles

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Roll Call whip count: 19 Republicans support leadership’s immigration principles

posted at 11:21 am on February 25, 2014 by Allahpundit

Glass half-full or glass half-empty? Roll Call thinks this is good news for amnesty opponents since, after all, 19 is a paltry fraction of a caucus in which every major figure in the leadership is onboard. Your friendly neighborhood eeyorepundit naturally sees things differently: If Democrats vote unanimously in favor, that’s 199 Dems plus 19 Republicans — i.e. 218, an amnesty majority.

Coincidentally, Boehner and Obama are huddling this morning on topics various and sundry. Dude, I’m nervous. A little.

The tally found 19 backing leadership’s standards, two more who said “possibly yes,” 30 Republicans openly opposing the principles, 22 who refused to say and 25 who were undecided. Three others had nuanced responses. The other 131 did not respond to calls or emails over a two-week period.

Given the number of Republicans who declined to answer or wouldn’t give a binary response, it’s possible Republicans see support for the broadly worded principles as a proxy for supporting an immigration overhaul this year. But with such a seeming dearth of support, the likelihood Republicans could move legislation — in this Congress or the next — seems bleak…

[S]uch a lackluster response from Republicans undermines Boehner’s contention that a majority of his conference supports the immigration principles, which were written in a broad fashion so as to attract the most support possible.

Here’s the list of Republicans for and against. Lots of tea partiers in the latter column, lots of leadership in the former. Roll Call has a point: If they can’t crack two dozen members willing to sign on to a list of “principles,” how many will there be for an actual bill (or series of bills)? Anyway, two X factors here. One, which we’ve discussed before, is Boehner’s willingness to violate the Hastert Rule and pass a legalization bill with mostly Democratic votes. There’s a theory that he’s waiting until the primaries are over to push the bill, to make it easier for Republicans to vote yes. I don’t buy it. It would be such a betrayal, and the timing would be so nakedly political, that I think it’d annoy grassroots conservatives more than if they simply passed something now. He’s probably going to have to do this with a minority of Republicans if he does it at all, regardless of timing, and the only way he’s willing to risk that, I think, is if he’s quietly preparing to retire. Is he?

The other X factor, which gets less attention, is how many Democrats he can count on to vote yes. Remember, Pelosi has said consistently that her caucus will insist on a path to citizenship for newly legalized illegals. Maybe the GOP plan, which would allow citizenship through existing channels without creating any new ones, would suffice for some Democrats, but it may not suffice for all. And it’s hard to believe that Boehner, after insisting that there’d be no special path to citizenship in whatever his team produces, would suddenly eat his words on that and sell out completely in the name of winning Democratic votes. If anything, considering that Republicans are likely to have a majority in both chambers next year and will be free to write their own immigration bill, it’s in the interest of Obama, Pelosi, and House Dems to make some sort of deal with Boehner now. Maybe that means accepting his “a path, but no special path” compromise in the name of obtaining other concessions. Better to get something now than get nothing tomorrow.

Or maybe it means walking away and presenting the GOP with this ultimatum: Pass a bill now that Democrats like or else next year Obama, who’s under pressure from his own base, will expand his executive DREAM amnesty from 2012 to include all illegals. Do it the first way and Boehner and his caucus can claim some (small) amount of credit for getting immigration reform done. Do it the second way and the GOP will be under heavy electoral pressure in 2015 to follow Obama’s lead and pass something codifying his executive order before the next election. They won’t want Democrats touting the fact in 2016 that it was only through the largesse of a Democratic president that illegals finally were able to “come out of the shadows.” They’ll want to play catch up, and that means ratifying (in large part) whatever Obama’s done, likely some sort of suspension of deportations. They’re certainly not going to roll back O’s order while Latino voters watch with interest. So that’s where we’re at right now: Boehner’s willingness to break the Hastert Rule versus Obama’s willingness to undertake his most dramatic executive overreach yet. How lucky do you feel?


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Thursday, January 30, 2014

Here it is: House GOP releases its “Standards for Immigration Reform”

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Here it is: House GOP releases its “Standards for Immigration Reform”

posted at 5:10 pm on January 30, 2014 by Allahpundit

Behold the long-awaited “statement of principles,” hot off the presses at today’s House Republican retreat. There are no surprises, or at least not yet: The statement’s so light on specifics, especially in the crucial final sentence, that it’s impossible to guess how bad the final deal might be.

Although if you guess “pretty bad,” you’re almost certainly on safe ground.

Standards for Immigration Reform

PREAMBLE
Our nation’s immigration system is broken and our laws are not being enforced. Washington’s failure to fix them is hurting our economy and jeopardizing our national security. The overriding purpose of our immigration system is to promote and further America’s national interests and that is not the case today. The serious problems in our immigration system must be solved, and we are committed to working in a bipartisan manner to solve them. But they cannot be solved with a single, massive piece of legislation that few have read and even fewer understand, and therefore, we will not go to a conference with the Senate’s immigration bill. The problems in our immigration system must be solved through a step-by-step, common-sense approach that starts with securing our country’s borders, enforcing our laws, and implementing robust enforcement measures. These are the principals guiding us in that effort.

Border Security and Interior Enforcement Must Come First
It is the fundamental duty of any government to secure its borders, and the United States is failing in this mission. We must secure our borders now and verify that they are secure. In addition, we must ensure now that when immigration reform is enacted, there will be a zero tolerance policy for those who cross the border illegally or overstay their visas in the future. Faced with a consistent pattern of administrations of both parties only selectively enforcing our nation’s immigration laws, we must enact reform that ensures that a President cannot unilaterally stop immigration enforcement.

Implement Entry-Exit Visa Tracking System
A fully functioning Entry-Exit system has been mandated by eight separate statutes over the last 17 years. At least three of these laws call for this system to be biometric, using technology to verify identity and prevent fraud. We must implement this system so we can identify and track down visitors who abuse our laws.

Employment Verification and Workplace Enforcement
In the 21st century it is unacceptable that the majority of employees have their work eligibility verified through a paper based system wrought with fraud. It is past time for this country to fully implement a workable electronic employment verification system.

Reforms to the Legal Immigration System
For far too long, the United States has emphasized extended family members and pure luck over employment-based immigration. This is inconsistent with nearly every other developed country. Every year thousands of foreign nationals pursue degrees at America’s colleges and universities, particularly in high skilled fields. Many of them want to use their expertise in U.S. industries that will spur economic growth and create jobs for Americans. When visas aren’t available, we end up exporting this labor and ingenuity to other countries. Visa and green card allocations need to reflect the needs of employers and the desire for these exceptional individuals to help grow our economy.

The goal of any temporary worker program should be to address the economic needs of the country and to strengthen our national security by allowing for realistic, enforceable, usable, legal paths for entry into the United States. Of particular concern are the needs of the agricultural industry, among others. It is imperative that these temporary workers are able to meet the economic needs of the country and do not displace or disadvantage American workers.

Youth
One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents. It is time to provide an opportunity for legal residence and citizenship for those who were brought to this country as children through no fault of their own, those who know no other place as home. For those who meet certain eligibility standards, and serve honorably in our military or attain a college degree, we will do just that.

Individuals Living Outside the Rule of Law
Our national and economic security depend on requiring people who are living and working here illegally to come forward and get right with the law. There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws – that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law. Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits). Criminal aliens, gang members, and sex offenders and those who do not meet the above requirements will not be eligible for this program. Finally, none of this can happen before specific enforcement triggers have been implemented to fulfill our promise to the American people that from here on, our immigration laws will indeed be enforced.

As expected, per the “Youth” section, there’ll be a special path to citizenship for DREAMers but not for adult illegals. As for the final line, what sort of enforcement triggers are we talking about here? “No legalization until there’s been a measurable 50 percent drop in illegal immigration over five years” would be a trigger worth considering. “No legalization until DHS submits a border-security plan,” which is basically what the Gang of Eight prescribed, wouldn’t be. There’s a lot of devil in these details.

Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics started tweeting in total mystification after the statement was released as to why the GOP would be pushing amnesty now, of all moments. If they were dead set on doing this before the midterms, he reasoned, why not do it last year, to give conservative anger more time to cool before the big vote? Failing that, why not wait until next year, after the midterms, since no one expects the Latino vote to be decisive this fall? I have no answers to the first question but you know my answer to the second. I think Boehner’s afraid that if they wait another year, until the GOP holds the Senate as well, conservative expectations for a “tough” Republican-written law will be so high that the backlash when they fail to come through will be even more bitter than it’ll be if they do it this year. In fact, as another Twitter buddy speculated, it may be that Boehner expects so many more tea partiers in the House and Senate next year that he feels he has to act now, before they’re seated. If he waits, tea partiers might be strong enough in 2015 to block the sort of bill that his friends in the Chamber of Commerce want written. When push comes to shove, he, Ryan, and the rest of the leadership think conservative/independent anger over ObamaCare will wash away all of their sins come November, including a mortal sin on immigration. Even if they sell you out on this, they figure, you’ll still go to the polls to rebuke Obama for the millions of cancellations and higher premiums that his pet boondoggle has stuck America with. And honestly? I’m not sure they’re wrong.

Update: Good catch by Greg Sargent. There’s no special path to citizenship here for adult illegals, but neither is there anything that would preclude them for applying for green cards and citizenship later on through existing channels. In fact, Paul Ryan signaled yesterday that they would be able to apply. Go figure that the leadership didn’t want to highlight that footnote in their statement.

Update: A detail from immigration discussions at the GOP retreat. I’ll bet:

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Thursday, January 23, 2014

House GOP number three: How about legalization without citizenship for illegals?

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House GOP number three: How about legalization without citizenship for illegals?

posted at 3:21 pm on January 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

A nice example of what I said last week about Republicans forging their immigration policy based not on what works but on what they think they can sell. Legalization without citizenship is, as DrewM says, arguably the worst possible outcome policy-wise. It rewards illegals by letting them stay in the U.S. indefinitely, creating an incentive for future illegals to cross the border, but then tries to punish them by relegating them to a status of uncertainty. Will they ever be allowed to apply for citizenship or will they be stuck forever as second-class quasi-citizens? No one knows. And no one in the GOP leadership really cares. They like this dopey idea because they think they can sell it to both sides. To conservatives, they can crow that they held the line and refused to create a special path to citizenship like Rubio and the Gang of Eight did. To amnesty shills, they can crow that they’ve given illegals a legal foothold to stay and work here in the U.S., with citizenship through some process inevitable in the fullness of time. The goal isn’t to produce smart policy or to solve the problem of illegal immigration. The goal is to kinda sorta placate the conservative base whose votes they need while wooing the left-leaning Latinos whose votes they want.

And the punchline, of course, is that it’ll make no one happy. Conservative media will paint this, correctly, as a sellout and pro-amnesty groups will begin agitating for full citizenship within minutes after a legalization bill passes. McCarthy himself, I assume, knows that it’s garbage as policy but feels he has no choice but to push it because he comes from a California district with a significant Latino population.

McCarthy stated his personal view on the contentious issue in an interview with KBAK/KBFX Eyewitness News in his hometown of Bakersfield, Calif. He signaled that the call for a provisional legal status would be included in the immigration reform principles House Republican leaders are soon to release.

“The principles aren’t written yet, but in my personal belief, I think it’ll go with legal status that will allow you to work and pay taxes,” McCarthy said.

McCarthy made clear he did not favor carving out a new path to citizenship for the estimated 11 million people in the country illegally. But his position appears to comport with the views of other senior Republicans who have called for illegal immigrants to have access to the existing route to citizenship once they receive an initial legal status and fulfill other requirements…

Immigration advocates have targeted McCarthy, whose district includes a large Hispanic population.

“[I]t is unclear whether Democrats would back such a compromise,” says the Hill. I don’t think it’s that unclear. Easy solution: The GOP could create a path to citizenship for DREAMers, which they seem inclined to do anyway, and offer that to Democrats in return for legalization without citizenship for adult illegals. Democrats will happily take that half-loaf. They want a deal so that they can show their Latino base that they finally delivered on immigration, but they also don’t want to lose their ability to demagogue Republicans as racist. Legalization without citizenship — i.e. “Jim Crow for illegals,” as the new lefty talking point will describe it — plus a DREAM amnesty allows them to do both. They’d be nuts to turn it down. As long as they don’t have to wait until border security has been measurably improved before legalization takes effect, they’ve got 90 percent of what they wanted from this process.

By the way, remember when Jeb Bush endorsed this idea too? It’s still bizarre to me that the great establishment hope, who’s supposed to be the GOP’s last, best chance to woo Latinos, would back a plan that’ll soon be compared by Democrats everywhere to segregation, but I guess he needed a gimmick to distinguish himself from Rubio after Rubio took the lead on comprehensive reform in the Senate. I’m curious to see if Bush sticks with it now that Rubio and his other presumptive centrist rival Chris Christie are fading.

Exit question: If Congress doesn’t pass some sort of reform before the midterms, Obama’s going to do it with via his presidential super powers, right?


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Wednesday, January 22, 2014

House GOP number three: How about legalization without citizenship for illegals?

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House GOP number three: How about legalization without citizenship for illegals?

posted at 3:21 pm on January 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

A nice example of what I said last week about Republicans forging their immigration policy based not on what works but on what they think they can sell. Legalization without citizenship is, as DrewM says, arguably the worst possible outcome policy-wise. It rewards illegals by letting them stay in the U.S. indefinitely, creating an incentive for future illegals to cross the border, but then tries to punish them by relegating them to a status of uncertainty. Will they ever be allowed to apply for citizenship or will they be stuck forever as second-class quasi-citizens? No one knows. And no one in the GOP leadership really cares. They like this dopey idea because they think they can sell it to both sides. To conservatives, they can crow that they held the line and refused to create a special path to citizenship like Rubio and the Gang of Eight did. To amnesty shills, they can crow that they’ve given illegals a legal foothold to stay and work here in the U.S., with citizenship through some process inevitable in the fullness of time. The goal isn’t to produce smart policy or to solve the problem of illegal immigration. The goal is to kinda sorta placate the conservative base whose votes they need while wooing the left-leaning Latinos whose votes they want.

And the punchline, of course, is that it’ll make no one happy. Conservative media will paint this, correctly, as a sellout and pro-amnesty groups will begin agitating for full citizenship within minutes after a legalization bill passes. McCarthy himself, I assume, knows that it’s garbage as policy but feels he has no choice but to push it because he comes from a California district with a significant Latino population.

McCarthy stated his personal view on the contentious issue in an interview with KBAK/KBFX Eyewitness News in his hometown of Bakersfield, Calif. He signaled that the call for a provisional legal status would be included in the immigration reform principles House Republican leaders are soon to release.

“The principles aren’t written yet, but in my personal belief, I think it’ll go with legal status that will allow you to work and pay taxes,” McCarthy said.

McCarthy made clear he did not favor carving out a new path to citizenship for the estimated 11 million people in the country illegally. But his position appears to comport with the views of other senior Republicans who have called for illegal immigrants to have access to the existing route to citizenship once they receive an initial legal status and fulfill other requirements…

Immigration advocates have targeted McCarthy, whose district includes a large Hispanic population.

“[I]t is unclear whether Democrats would back such a compromise,” says the Hill. I don’t think it’s that unclear. Easy solution: The GOP could create a path to citizenship for DREAMers, which they seem inclined to do anyway, and offer that to Democrats in return for legalization without citizenship for adult illegals. Democrats will happily take that half-loaf. They want a deal so that they can show their Latino base that they finally delivered on immigration, but they also don’t want to lose their ability to demagogue Republicans as racist. Legalization without citizenship — i.e. “Jim Crow for illegals,” as the new lefty talking point will describe it — plus a DREAM amnesty allows them to do both. They’d be nuts to turn it down. As long as they don’t have to wait until border security has been measurably improved before legalization takes effect, they’ve got 90 percent of what they wanted from this process.

By the way, remember when Jeb Bush endorsed this idea too? It’s still bizarre to me that the great establishment hope, who’s supposed to be the GOP’s last, best chance to woo Latinos, would back a plan that’ll soon be compared by Democrats everywhere to segregation, but I guess he needed a gimmick to distinguish himself from Rubio after Rubio took the lead on comprehensive reform in the Senate. I’m curious to see if Bush sticks with it now that Rubio and his other presumptive centrist rival Chris Christie are fading.

Exit question: If Congress doesn’t pass some sort of reform before the midterms, Obama’s going to do it with via his presidential super powers, right?


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